<html><body><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Hi,</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>pauses are over-marked too, as if it's based on the fact that pauses is the key-trigger for continuers, with remind me of a very basic definition of turn in computer science, no ?</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>Best wishes</div><div><br></div><div data-marker="__SIG_PRE__"><div><strong><span style="font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif;">Nicolas Rollet</span></strong><br><span style="font-family: garamond, "new york", times, serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">Télécom Paris</span><br><a href="https://www.telecom-paris.fr/fr/lecole/departements-enseignement-recherche/sciences-economiques-sociales" target="_blank"><font color="#0000ff" face="garamond, new york, times, serif">Department of <span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">Economics </span>and Social Sciences</font></a></div><div><font color="#0000ff" face="garamond, new york, times, serif">INTERACT</font></div><div><span style="font-family: garamond, "new york", times, serif;">Institut polytechnique de Paris</span><br><span style="font-family: garamond, "new york", times, serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">I3 UMR 9217 – CNRS </span><br><span style="font-family: garamond, "new york", times, serif; color: rgb(51, 102, 255);"><a href="http://i3.cnrs.fr" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);">Site i3</a></span><br><span style="font-family: garamond, "new york", times, serif; color: rgb(51, 102, 255);"><a href="https://encyclopediedelaparole.org" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);" rel="noopener">Encyclopédie de la parole </a></span><br><span style="font-family: garamond, "new york", times, serif; color: rgb(51, 102, 255);">(+33)6 88 75 86 28</span></div><div><span style="font-family: garamond, "new york", times, serif; color: rgb(51, 102, 255);">bureau 3A259</span></div></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr" data-marker="__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker="__HEADERS__"><b>De: </b>"L.E.M. de Rijk, (Lynn) via emcai" <emcai@conversationanalysis.org><br><b>À: </b>"L.E.M. de Rijk, (Lynn) via emcai" <emcai@conversationanalysis.org><br><b>Envoyé: </b>Mercredi 2 Octobre 2024 18:59:11<br><b>Objet: </b>Re: [emcai] Podcasts generated using Google's NotebookLM<br></div><div><br><style style="display:none;">P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}</style></div><div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__"><p>I also immediately noticed the massive overuse of continuers,
acknowledgments and other response tokens. But I will say, I just
tried this thing with one of our papers, and it worked very
smoothly there, generating quite a realistic experience. The
"podcast" really captures the majority of the contents of the
paper accurately and even offers comprehensible summary
descriptions of what happens in the data fragments :-O <br>
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<p>Quite fascinating, I must say! Thanks for sharing this, Roger.</p>
<p>Best,<br>
Uwe<br>
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There is definitely something with the sequential distribution
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<div>In case you are not aware, the latest AI development
from Google provides the ability to generate a
podcast-style conversation between two 'individuals'
<u>automatically</u> from an uploaded document (e.g. a
scientific paper)? The results are astounding, both in
terms of the speech and the dialogue.</div>
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<div>Here are two examples I generated based on ...</div>
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<li>my recent VIHAR-24 paper on "<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n5ap5v2hu_ERl2mwewYNP_WzfQSwpw0T/view?usp=share_link" target="_blank">What Needs to be Known in
Order to Perform a Meaningful Scientific Comparison
Between Animal Communications and Human Spoken
Language</a>", and</li>
<li>the famous "<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TbrynC1VtJFMbIteWJEj1DAHURCcxDWr/view?usp=share_link" target="_blank">Chicken Chicken Chicken</a>"
paper by Doug Zongker.</li>
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<div>I wonder how these AI-generated interactions stack-up
from a CA perspective?</div>
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<div>Roger</div>
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