[emcai] Podcasts generated using Google's NotebookLM

Thu Oct 3 03:46:56 MDT 2024

Hi, 

pauses are over-marked too, as if it's based on the fact that pauses is the key-trigger for continuers, with remind me of a very basic definition of turn in computer science, no ? 

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I also immediately noticed the massive overuse of continuers, acknowledgments and other response tokens. But I will say, I just tried this thing with one of our papers, and it worked very smoothly there, generating quite a realistic experience. The "podcast" really captures the majority of the contents of the paper accurately and even offers comprehensible summary descriptions of what happens in the data fragments :-O 

Quite fascinating, I must say! Thanks for sharing this, Roger. 

Best, 
Uwe 

Am 02.10.2024 um 18:51 schrieb Magnus Hamann via emcai: 

Just a first noticing: 
There is definitely something with the sequential distribution of "continuers" that is a little off. 
That said, this is definitely an interesting tool (thinking about students with dyslexia here). 

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Hi All, 

In case you are not aware, the latest AI development from Google provides the ability to generate a podcast-style conversation between two 'individuals' automatically from an uploaded document (e.g. a scientific paper)? The results are astounding, both in terms of the speech and the dialogue. 

Here are two examples I generated based on ... 

    * my recent VIHAR-24 paper on " [ https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n5ap5v2hu_ERl2mwewYNP_WzfQSwpw0T/view?usp=share_link | What Needs to be Known in
                    Order to Perform a Meaningful Scientific Comparison
                    Between Animal Communications and Human Spoken
                    Language ] ", and 
    * the famous " [ https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TbrynC1VtJFMbIteWJEj1DAHURCcxDWr/view?usp=share_link | Chicken Chicken Chicken ] " paper by Doug Zongker. 
I wonder how these AI-generated interactions stack-up from a CA perspective? 

Best wishes 
Roger 

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